JL;DR SUMMARY In this episode of Unorthodox, the hosts interview Michael O'Loughlin from America Magazine about his podcast on AIDS and the Catholic Church, discussing the history of gay Catholics and the church's response to the epidemic. A way out west there was a fella, fella I want to tell you about, fella by the name of Jeff Lebowski.

• At least, that was the handle his lovin' parents gave him, but he never had much use for it himself.
• This Lebowski, he called himself the Dude.
• Now, Dude, that's a name no one would self-apply where I come from.
• But then, there was a lot about the Dude that didn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
• And a lot about where he lived, likewise. But then again, maybe that's why I found the place s'durned innarestin'.