In this episode of Unorthodox, the hosts interview Michael O'Loughlin from America Magazine about his podcast on AIDS and the Catholic Church, discussing the history of gay Catholics and the church's response to the epidemic.

Cardinal Jean-Marie Lustiger, a Jewish convert to Catholicism, was a significant figure in France, known for his staunch defense of the Catholic church, criticism of capitalism, and opposition to racism.

The author reflects on their father's secret struggle with AIDS and the impact it had on their family and personal life.