"But I dont think Joanne is in a place yet where she feels that. Lior: Yeah, I totally see that. But, not everyone who converts does it because of faith, and I think doing it because of this feeling of belonging and of loving tradition and people is legit, and its true that Joanne might already be all of these things. Evelyn: I just feel like were in this mode societally where we are SO entrenched in identity politics (to clarify, not necessarily bad) that we try to identify anything we like as being related to our own identities. Being warm and cozy is Jewish, per Esthers thoughts. Sure! But theres no specificity to that. I want more specificity to Joanne wanting to convert. Also, Noah just broke up with her and she wants to be with Noah. That could very easily color her perception of wanting to convert. Daci: Right, she only wants to convert when shes in danger of losing him. Avital: The lack of specificity was a huge oversight! Lior: The lack of specificity is the problem with this whole shows conception of Judaism. Vanessa: I think you just named the difference between Nobody Wants This and Long Story Short. Lior: Absolutely, Long Story Short is entirely informed by super specific personal experiences with Jewish tradition and concepts. Here everything is broad strokes and nothing lands. All of Noahs sermons this season were meh. Even that Big Noah one. It was just so many platitudes, so little specificity. Evelyn: I have so many problems with the writing in this show, but my biggest gripe is that the sermons and rabbinic wisdom they write are so bad."