"Now, what's fascinating is, is they wanted to figure out, you know, there was an Ashkenazi Yishuv in Yerushalayim from the late 1830s."

"I'm cutting out all the details. It's complicated. There's a lot of arguments and complications about it. This was a massive tumult about 25 years ago, which we're going to get into in a little bit. We're going to go through it quickly because I know these type of tumults drive me crazy sort of. Anyway, so this actually happened clearly in the, the documentation says it happened in the 1860s. Now the Kihilo had been here for between 40 to 50 years already and one can of course start theoretically asking so what did they do until then? And the answer is we just don't know. That's the answer. We don't know. And to echo, I believe it's Benyamin Richler and an anonymous curator who my brother heard speak in a museum in New York 15-ish years ago or so. You know, Swarmer made to be used. And if you want to know why we don't have, if they were approximately X amount of Swarim around in 1500, so what happened to them? The answer is they were used until they were worn out and put in Geniza and goodbye. And only a small amount were maintained some way or another. And so, so what did they do for Tanakhs? What did they do for Kriya Saftara before that? Well, either they didn't have the means and they were still using the Gilsaftarta because they didn't have a choice or they used them and they were gone and no, no, no, whatever, I don't know. They did their best per se. But anyway, so Rav Shmuel Salat, who was prominent in Yerushalayim and the rabbinics in Yerushalayim for literally 70 years, he was only officially the rabbi for about 50 years, only K'ilu. But he sent a delegation, he sent a delegation, he sent two people to Aleppo, which is not that far from here, Chalob Aleppo, it's not that far from here, to look it over."