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Micah Goodman: 'I don't want Gaza to become our Vietnam'

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JL;DR SUMMARY Micah Goodman discusses the complexities and improbabilities of achieving Israeli-Palestinian peace in the foreseeable future, suggesting that expectations for Palestinian concessions on issues of religion and self-determination are unrealistic. A way out west there was a fella, fella I want to tell you about, fella by the name of Jeff Lebowski.

  • At least, that was the handle his lovin' parents gave him, but he never had much use for it himself.
  • This Lebowski, he called himself the Dude.
  • Now, Dude, that's a name no one would self-apply where I come from.
  • But then, there was a lot about the Dude that didn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
  • And a lot about where he lived, likewise. But then again, maybe that's why I found the place s'durned innarestin'.
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HamasIsraeli Palestinian ConflictIranIsraeli PoliticsIsraeli UnityReligious IdentityJewish DemocracyMicah GoodmanZionism CriticismIdf Ethics

Places mentioned

Palestinian Territories
"I don't want Gaza to be our Vietnam."
Tel Aviv, Tel Aviv District, Israel
"And one is Jewish, and one is Jerusalem and one is Tel Aviv, there are two camps."
Jerusalem, Israel
"And one is Jewish, and one is Jerusalem and one is Tel Aviv, there are two camps."
Israel
"Do you think peace between Israelis and Palestinians will happen within your lifetime?"
Gaza, Palestinian Territories
"This war, it was designed as a tragedy. Hamas designed the war in Gaza as a tragedy."
Iran
"The war against Iran has been an incredible Israeli victory."
United States
"To do really socialism. Not top down, but bottom up. Not using power. And in the 50s and 60s, people came from all over the world to visit the Kibbutz to volunteer in Kibbutzim. To see the Israeli brand of socialism. Then we've changed a bit. We've changed throughout time. In the 90s and 21st century, people come all over the world to see the startup nation. A different model of what it means to lighten to the nations. Innovation, individualism. People came from all over the world to visit to visit not the miracle of socialism, the Kibbutz, but the miracle of Israeli capitalism."
Egypt
"The Muslims used to also control Spain. He says, no, we should... Any foreign control over this land is a violation of sharia. So if Palestinians say, we recognize Israeli sovereignty with authority."
Spain
"The Muslims used to also control Spain. He says, no, we should... Any foreign control over this land is a violation of sharia."
Hertzlia, Haifa District, Israel
"We're seeing all over the... We're seeing the failure of individualism. I think what you see in Israel is the... Israel is a hybrid society. We are hyper individualists. You have to speak to only two, three Israelis to understand. You're talking to people. That don't want to be told what to do. David Ben-Gurion said once, the worst job in the world is to be the prime minister of Israelis. And this is in the fifties. Because you're the prime minister of 1 million prime ministers. Israelis are hyper. The whole startup nation book is about hyper individualism. And then every October 7th, you see these same people building startups, startups in El Celia."
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