"I'm Unite Levy of Channel 12 in Tel Aviv."

"And I'm Jonathan Friedland of The Guardian in London."

"So there was about a two-week seminar in Jerusalem."

"The IDF pulls most of its troops out of Gaza, leaving everybody wondering what's next."

"I was sent to Holland."

"Nelson Mandela was out in South Africa."

"Instead, I was already working as a journalist covering the diplomacy around them out of Washington in that period."

"what happened was Bauch-Kolstein and the massacre of the, at the Cave of the Patriarchs, and then years and years of terror attacks in the heart of Israeli cities."

"obviously these warnings of, something imminent coming from Iran."

"In the meantime, the military, withdrawing from Khan Yunis either means that, they are preparing for the next stage or that this is a signal in the, area of hostage, negotiations, hostage release negotiations."

"And the concern is not just at the level of, you know, politics and, and, and policymakers. You speak to regular Israelis. They are checking their safe room. They are checking. They've got supplies. They think they could be, you know, holed up for a whole period while the country's on under bombardment. Just to emphasize what a huge escalation this would be when October 7th happened and Joe Biden flew straight away to Israel, to stand at Israel's side. He, and when he delivered that one word message to Israel's enemies don't, what he feared and what was in people's minds was the kind of proxy attack you referred to of Hezbollah, joining in, using its very, very heavy arsenal. The foreign reports you're describing say that very deliberately the decision has been taken to go to skip out that stage, which is a huge deal in itself and escalate up a notch to the one thing, which I think it's fair to say, most people almost thought would never happen, which is a direct attack from Iranian soil onto Israeli soil. The war reports to say that, the Supreme leader has made that decision almost as if it's, you know, Iran's honor is at stake and therefore it must come directly via rather than via an intermediary as it were. I mean, this obviously would be the most colossal escalation were it to happen. And I think, you know, the sign so far is that Joe Biden is, is, is reinforcing the message he gave back in October and saying that, the support that Washington gives to Israel is ironclad. Significance of that is this comes just days after he was on the phone to the prime minister, Netanyahu, essentially saying our support is conditional on you behaving the way we want you to behave in your war with Hamas."