Jay Michaelson's book, "The Heresy of Jacob Frank," challenges traditional portrayals of the 18th-century figure as an egomaniac and false messiah.

"The Books of Jacob" by Olga Tokarczuk is a massive novel about Jacob Frank and his followers, a heretical movement in the 18th century.

Olga Tokarczuk, the 2018 Nobel Prize winner in literature, published The Books of Jacob in 2014.

The discussion delves into the topic of Jewish secularization in the 18th century, touching on books like "Secularism and Sabbateans."